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The writers of the New Testament seem to have expected “the end” to be near. Paul expected to be raptured in his lifetime (1 Thess.4:17). It appears that they misread the times, the events and, consequently, the main players in their stories. Why?

The Gospel writers present significantly conflicting Jesus figures and conflicting kingdom perceptions. Luke, for instance, presents Yahweh to us through his elaborate Elijah figure and proceeds to call him Jesus, from the house of David, who redeems His people in the then present. He then presents a second Jesus, who comprehensively denies that he is the Davidic Messiah and who in turn presents a third Jesus, the Son of Man Davidic Messiah, who will appear in the future after the preceding signs of “the day...”, and who will govern his people in the future.

Together with these three figures Luke also presents three conflicting “kingdom” scenarios - one each associated with 1 Jesus and 3 Jesus (both physical kingdoms), and one in between, which does not come with physical signs but is “within you”(Luke 17:20,21). Let us do a comparative study, which is essential for discerning the Suffering and Conquering Messiah’s from the “Yahweh Messiah” or God-man “Messiah”.

However, before analysing the Messianic figures of the Bible, it is necessary to study the greatest expectation of advent in Prophetic Scripture - the incomprehensible advent of Yahweh. The supreme event of Yom Yahweh - His appearance in His Great Day. An advent which the Church appears to confuse with that of the Messiah. We will find out why.

The Advent of Yahweh in His Great Day

1. Lev. 26 :11 “I will put My dwelling place among you and I will not abhor you.

:12 I will walk among you and be your God…..”

(Paul refers to this scripture in 2 Cor.6:16 and says that this “dwelling

place” is the Church and that Yahweh’s presence in them is by the Holy

Spirit.)

2. Ps.101 :13 “You will arise and have compassion on Zion, for it is time to show

favour to her; the appointed time has come.

:16 For Yahweh will rebuild Zion and appear in His glory.”

3. Isa.2 :2 In the acharit hayemim - the latter days...

:3 “...Come, let us go up to the mountain of Yahweh, to the house of the

God of Jacob. He will teach us His ways...”

:4 He will judge between the nations and will settle disputes for many

peoples.

4. Isa.12 :1 In that day you will say…

:6 Shout aloud and sing for joy, people of Zion, for great is the Holy One

of Israel among you.

5. Isa.24 :23 The moon will be abashed, the sun ashamed (preceding signs); for

Yahweh Almighty will reign on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem , and

before its elders gloriously.

6. Isa. 29 :5 ...Suddenly, in an instant,

:6 Yahweh Almighty will come with thunder and earthquake and great

noise…

(Rev.16 :14 ...the battle on the great day of God Almighty.

:15 “Behold, I (Yahweh) come like a thief” ...Armageddon.

7. Isa.35 :4 ...say to those with fearful hearts your God will come with vengeance;

with divine retribution He will come to save you.

8. Isa.40 :2 A voice calling in the desert; “Prepare the way for Yahweh...”

:5 And the glory of Yahweh will be revealed and all mankind together

will see it...

(This most controversial scripture has already crossed our path.)

9. Isa.52 :8 Listen! Your watchman lift up their voices; together they shout for joy.

When Yahweh returns to Zion, they will see it with their own eyes.

10. Isa.59 :20 “The Redeemer will come to Zion, to those in Jacob who repent of

their sin,” declares Yahweh.

(Yahweh has revealed himself repeatedly as the “Redeemer of Israel”

throughout 2 Isaiah 40-59. Paul (Rom.11:25) places this event in

the future.)

11. Isa.60 :13 ...to adorn the place of My sanctuary; and I will glorify the

place of My feet. (Having previously come as the “Redeemer”)

12. Isa.66 :15 See Yahweh is coming with fire...

The book of Isaiah contains numerous references to the Yom Yahweh - indicating the presence of Yahweh in Israel.

13. Jeremiah 30 -33 concerns the restoration of Israel in “that Day” …Jacobs trouble. The restoration of Jerusalem, a New Covenant, a King from David’s line on the throne of

Israel, and…

Jeremiah 33:17 For this is what Yahweh says: “David will never fail to have a man

to sit on the throne of Israel, nor will the priests who are Levites, ever

fail to have a man stand before Me to offer burnt offerings...

(Ezekiel is comprehensive about this)

14. Ezek.34 :15 I myself will tend My sheep and have them lie down, declares

Sovereign Yahweh

15. Ezek.37 :27 My dwelling place will be with them….

16. Ezek 39 :8 ...This is the day I have spoken of.

17. Ezek.43 :5 ...the glory of Yahweh filled the temple.

:7 “Son of man, THIS IS THE PLACE OF MY THRONE AND

THE PLACE FOR THE SOLES OF MY FEET. This is where I

will live among the Israelites forever.” (This appears to be a

different presence from the previous glory above the Ark of the

Covenant in the original tabernacle and the and first Sanctuary.)

(Even though Yahweh declares in Isa.66:1 that such a “house cannot contain and limit him“, He will, nevertheless, be there also.

Isa. 66:23 “From New Moon to New Moon and from one Sabbath to

another, all mankind will come and bow down before Me” says

Yahweh.)

18. Joel 2 :11 . . .The day of the Lord is great; it is dreadful. Who can endure it?

:27 Then you will know that I am in Israel, that I am Yahweh your

Elohim and that there is no other; never again will My people be

shamed.

19. Joel 3 :17 Then you will know that I, Yahweh your Elohim, dwell in Zion,

My holy hill; Jerusalem will be holy; never again will foreigners

invade her.

:18 In that day….

20. Micah 4 :6 “In that day” declares Yahweh…

:7 Yahweh will rule over them in Mount Zion from that day and

forever.

21. Zeph.3 :15 …Yahweh, the King of Israel, is with you, never again will you fear

any harm.

:16 On that day they will say to Jerusalem...

:17 Yahweh your Elohim is with you, He is mighty to save...

22. Zech.14 :1 A day of Yahweh is coming...

:3 Then Yahweh will go out and fight against those nations...

:4 On that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives...

:9 Yahweh will be king over the whole world. On that day there will be

one Yahweh, and His name, one.

23. Zech.14 :16 Then the survivors from all the nations that have attacked Jerusalem

will go up year after year to worship the King, Yaweh Almighty, and

to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles.

24. Mal.3 :1 “See, I (Yahweh) will send My (Yahweh) messenger, who will prepare

the way before ME (Yahweh)...

25. Rev.1:4,8; 4:8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says Yahweh Elohim, “who is

and who was and who is to come, El Shadai”.

26. Rev.16 :14 ...to gather them for the battle on the great day of God Almighty.

:15 “Behold, I (Yahweh) come like a thief.”

There is indeed a wealth of prophetic expectation for the advent of Yahweh, in a form as yet unknown. Much more than the discerned and separate prophecies of the various Messianic figures which we will consider. Yet, despite the clear distinctions among them, the Gospel writers and, consequently, the Church have blended them into one person - the Kerugmatic Christ of the Church who calls him “Lord”. The Advent of Yahweh is never considered as a separate event. Perhaps Ya’akov (James), in his epistle, saw something else - as he spoke of the advent of Yahweh, while the Church thought he spoke of Yeshua.

James 5 :7 Be patient, then, brothers until the Lord’s (?) coming...

:8 You too, be patient and stand firm because the Lord’s (?) coming is

near.

:10 Brothers, as an example of patience in the face of suffering, take the

prophets who spoke in the name of the Lord! (Surely this has to be

Yahweh)

:11 ...You have heard of Job’s perseverance and have seen what the

Lord (!) finally brought about. The Lord (!) is full of compassion and

mercy.

:13 Is any one of you in trouble...happy...

:14 Is any one of you sick? He should call the elders of the Church to pray

over him and anoint him with oil in the Name of the Lord (Yahweh!)

:15 And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the

Lord (!) will raise him up.

“The Lord”, who is coming, who dealt with the prophets and with Job and in whose name prayer should be offered for the sick, has to be Yahweh and not Yeshua. Ya’akov appears to have made the distinction between the two as “Lord” or “Adonai” should always refer to Yahweh and not to a Messiah.

And, most amazing: DID JAMES RECOGNISE THE SOON COMING OF YAHWEH IN TERMS OF ISA. 40:3; THE GUILT OFFERING REQUIRED BY ISA. 40:1,2 HAVING BEEN PERFORMED BY THE SUFFERING MESSIAH? ...YET NOT DISCERNING THE “DELAY”?

Let us consider prophecy concerning the Messiahs and the order of their appearance.

A. The Suffering Messiah - Anointed One or Christ

This Messiah was destined to appear at the end of Daniel’s 69^th week of prophecy. An Anointed Prince who would be cut off - “with nothing for him” - in the middle of the 70^th week.

Dan. 25 :26 After the sixty two sevens (following the previous seven sevens) the

Anointed Prince (Messiah) will be cut off and will have nothing.(Daniel’s

“70” to be discussed)

Ps.22 :1 My God, My God, why have you forsaken me? ...

:17 I can count all my bones; people stare and gloat over me.

:18 They divide my garments among them and cast lots for my clothing

:23 ...Revere Him (Yahweh), all you descendants of Israel!

:24 For He has not despised or disdained the suffering of the afflicted one...

Ps.118 :22 The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone

:23 Yahweh has done this, and it is marvelous in our eyes.

:24 This is the day Yahweh has made; let us rejoice and be glad in it

(In “that day” they will look to Me on account of him who they pierced

And they will mourn for him…)

(This is from the “Hallel”, Ps.112 - 118, which they sang at Yeshua’s

final Pesach Seder.)

Isa.49 :7 This is what Yahweh says - the Redeemer and Holy One of Israel - to

him who was despised and abhorred by the nation, to the servant of

rulers; “Kings will see you and arise, princes will see and bow down,

because of Yahweh who is faithful, the Holy One of Israel, who has

chosen you.”

(Note the clear distinction between this one and the one described just

previously in verses 5 and 6. This other one is discussed in C. Conquering

Messiah)

Isa. 52 :13 See, My servant will act wisely; he will be raised and lifted up and

highly exalted.

:14 Just as there were many who were appalled at him - his appearance

was so disfigured beyond that of any man and his form marred

beyond human likeness -

:15 so will he sprinkle many nations, and kings will shut their mouths

because of him.

Isa. 53 :3 He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, and familiar

with suffering...

:4 Surely he took up our (Israel’s) infirmities and carried our sorrows, yet

we considered him stricken by God...

:5 But he was pierced for our (Israel’s) transgressions, he was

crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace

was upon him, and by his wounds are we healed.

:6 ...he was led like a lamb to the slaughter...

:10 ...though Yahweh makes his life “Asham” (a Guilt offering) ....

Zech 10 :10 “And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of

Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication. They will look on Me

(Yahweh) on account of him (Suffering Messiah) who they (or was)

pierced, and mourn for him...

This Suffering Messiah became known in the New Testament as “The Lamb of God”.

Thus were the predictions of the Suffering Servant, also referred to as Mashiach Ben Yosef - Messiah Son of Joseph. He was indeed the son of Joseph, sent to bring “Asham” so as to make atonement for, and reconcile Israel with Yahweh before the advent of Yahweh in “the great Day of the Lord”. And this “Day,”destined for the following 3 ½ years, became expanded indefinitely by the “Delay.”

B. The Prophet Messiah, or the Prophet Christ.

Deut. 18 :18 “I will raise up for them a prophet like you (Moses) from among their

brothers; I will put My words in his mouth, and he will tell them

everything I command him.”

Acts 3 :22 For Moses said; “The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet

like me from among your own people; you must listen to everything

he tells you.”

John 1 :21 “...Are you (John the Baptist) the Prophet?” He answered: “No.”

The Prophet Messiah is encountered in the Prophetic Sermon, as recorded in the three Synoptic Gospels, which will be discussed in detail. This Prophet Messiah and the Suffering Messiah might be the same person. The latter, as the “Lamb”, presents the identical prophetic expectation through the Seals of Revelation to that found in the Prophetic Sermon - albeit some sixty five years later.

C. The Conquering Messiah - Davidic Christ

This Messiah of the great expectation, was (is) destined to arrive at the end of Daniel’s 70^th week - at the time of Final Conquest. (The Suffering Messiah appears after 69 weeks.)

Dan. 9 :24 “Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your Holy City

...to seal up vision and prophecy...”

Rev. 11 :3 “And I will give power to My two witnesses, and they will prophesy

for 1260 days (latter half of week 70 – after the revoking of “delay”),

clothed in sackcloth.”

:15 The seventh angel sounded his shofar, and there were loud voices in

heaven, which said: “The kingdom of the world has become the

kingdom of our Yahweh and of His Messiah and He (Yahweh) will

reign for ever and ever”

Gen. 49 :10 The scepter will not depart from Judah, nor the ruler’s staff from

between his feet until Shilow comes - him to whom it belongs and

the obedience of the nations is his.

Num. 24 :17 “I see him, but not now; I behold him, but not near. A star will come

out of Jacob; a scepter will rise out of Israel...

:19 A ruler will come out of Jacob...”

(This “Star” was mistakenly identified by Rabbi Akiva as the leader of

the Jewish Revolt (133 CE), Simon Bar Kochba, meaning Simon Son

of a Star. This revolt led to the final destruction of Jerusalem by Rome,

who renamed the ruins Aelina Capitolina.)

Ps.110 :1 Yahweh said to my lord: “Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies

a footstool for your feet.”

:2 Yahweh will extend your mighty scepter from Zion: rule in the midst of

your enemies.”

(Psalm 110 clearly portrays an earthly scenario and not a heavenly one

in the way the New Testament presents it. It may have its beginning in the

heavens as indicated be the Son of Man arriving there – Dan.7:13,14 and

Rev.12:5 – but has its fulfilment in the New Temple on earth as our study

of the Temple in the Day of the Lord will show).

Isa. 4 :2 In that day the Branch of Yahweh will be beautiful…

Isa. 9 :6 For us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on

his shoulders. Mighty God and everlasting Father will name him

Wonderful Counselor, Sar Shalom (Prince of Peace).

(This is the translation found in the Jewish Bible and differs from

Christian translations which say: “He will be called mighty God and

everlasting Father”. However, none of the New Testament authors ever

refer to Jesus as “Mighty God, everlasting Father”. Even they did not

think he was. This is an indication of the error of the translations.)

:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end. He

will reign on David’s throne and over his kingdom, establishing and

upholding it from that time on and forever. The zeal of Yahweh

Almighty will accomplish this.

Isa. 11 :1 A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a Branch

will bear fruit.

:2 The Spirit of Yahweh will rest on him...

:10 In that day the Root of Jesse will stand as a banner for the peoples;

the nations will rally to him and his place of rest will be glorious. In

that day Yahweh will reach out His hand a second time to reclaim the

remnant of His people...

Isa. 28 :2 See Yahweh has one who is powerful and strong...

:16 See, I lay a stone in Zion, a tested stone, a precious cornerstone for a

sure foundation; the one who trusts will never be dismayed.

Isa. 32 :1 See, a king will reign in righteousness and rulers will rule with justice.

Isa. 42 :1 Here is My servant, whom I uphold, My chosen one in whom I delight;

I will put My Spirit on him and he will bring justice to the nations...

:4 He will not falter or be crushed (this separates him from the

Suffering Messiah who will be “crushed”) till he establishes justice on

earth.

Isa. 49 :5 And now Yahweh says - He who formed me in the womb to be His

servant to bring Jacob back to Him and gather Israel to Himself, for I am

honoured in the eyes of Yahweh and my God has been my strength -

:6 He says: “It is too small a thing for you to be My servant to restore the

tribes of Jacob and bring back those of Israel I have kept. I will make

you a light for the Gentiles, that you may bring My salvation to the ends

of the earth.”

Isa. 61 :1 The Spirit of Sovereign Yahweh is on me, because Yahweh has anointed

me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to bind up the

broken hearted, to proclaim freedom for the captives and release for the

prisoners,

:2 to proclaim the year of Yahweh’s favour and the day of vengeance of

our God...

Jer. 23 :5 “The days are coming,” declares Yahweh, “when I will raise up to David

a righteous Branch, a King who will reign wisely and do what is just

and right in the land.”

:6 In his day Judah will be saved and Israel will live in safety. This is the

name by which he will be called: Yahweh Tzidkenu - the Lord our

righteousness, or rather - the righteousness of Yahweh.

Jer. 33 :14 “The days are coming,” declares Yahweh, “when I will fulfil the

gracious promise I made to the house of Israel and to the house of

Judah.

:15 In those days and at that time (Jacob’s trouble, …that day) I will

make a righteous Branch sprout from David’s line; he will do what

is just and right in the land.

:16 In those days Judah will be saved and Jerusalem will live in safety…”

Ezek.34 :24 I, Yahweh, will be their God and My servant David will be prince

among them. I, Yahweh, have spoken.

Ezek.37 :24 “My servant David will be king over them...

:25 They will live in the land I gave to My servant Jacob... and David,

My servant, will be their prince forever…”

:26 I will make a covenant of peace with them; it will be an everlasting

covenant. (The “New Covenant” of Jer.31:31 and Isa.59:21 at the

coming of “the Redeemer”).

(Written more than 400 years after “David”, it has to speak of the

Davidic Messiah.)

Ezek.39 :8 “...This is the day I have spoken of.”

Ezek. 44:3 The Prince himself is the only one who may sit inside the gateway

to eat in the presence of Yahweh. (Ps.110:1)

(Ezek.44 - 48 has much to say about “the Prince”, following the

permanent restoration of Israel to their land in “the day I have spoken

of”)

Hos. 3 :5 Afterward the Israelites will return and seek Yahweh their God and

David their king. They will come trembling to Yahweh and to His

blessing in the acharit hayemim - the latter days.

Micah 5 :2 “But you, Bethlehem Ephratah, though you are small among the clans

of Judah, out of you will come for Me one who will be ruler over

Israel...”

Zech. 3 :8 “...I am going to bring My servant, the Branch.”

Zech. 10 :4 From Judah will come the cornerstone,...

Mal. 3 :1 ....Then suddenly the lord you are seeking will come to his temple; the

messenger of the covenant, whom you desire, will come,” says

Yahweh Almighty.

Rev. 12 :5 She will give birth to a son, a male child, who will rule all the nations

with an iron scepter (Born before the revoking of “delay”... raptured at

the revoking of “delay” with 1260 days remaining)

Rev. 11 :15 The seventh angel sounded his trumpet and there were loud voices in

heaven, which said: “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom

of Yahweh and His Messiah and He (Yahweh) will reign for ever and

ever.”

We have now presented a vast amount of scripture depicting the advents of Yahweh and three Messianic figures. They are all “anointed” ones - Christs if you will. These depictions are all discernibly different and separate from each other, each with his own purpose.

The New Testament writers, however, fail to make these distinctions and present all four in one person as a single event - in the Kerugmatic Christ of the Church. They present them/him in the contrived non-event of the Yom Yahweh, which is yet to take place in the future. The mistaken presentation of Yom Yahweh is the very cause of failure to discern, not only these main players, but also the times and the kingdom.

Let us now see how the three Messianic figures, incorporating Yahweh, are presented by the Gospel writers:

We will call the “Yahweh Messiah” 1 Jesus.

The Prophet Messiah, who also appears to be the Suffering Messiah, will be 2 Jesus.

And the Conquering Messiah, who comes in “The Day…”, is 3 Jesus.

1 Jesus (God - Man Messiah) 2 Jesus (Suffering/Prophet Messiah)

Luke 1:16 Many of the people of Israel Luke 21:16 “You will be betrayed by

will he (John the Baptist) bring back to parents, brothers, relatives and friends.

Yahweh their Elohim. and they will put some of you to death.

:17 And he will go before Yahweh :17 All men will hate you (the

in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn Jews) because of me.” (He was right and

the hearts of the fathers to their children through this he denies that Elijah had

(Mal4:5,6) ...to make ready a people come).

prepared for Yahweh.

Both Luke and his 2 Jesus recognise the absolute need for Elijah - and consequently “the Day of the Lord” - to come for the advent of Yahweh and His Messiah. This Davidic Messiah cannot and will not come BEFORE “THE DAY”.

1 Jesus (God - Man Messiah) 2 Jesus (Suffering / Prophet Messiah)

Luke 1:68.”Praise be to Yahweh, the Luke 21:28 “When these things begin to

Elohim of Israel, because He has come take place (tribulation in the unknown future)

and redeemed His people. stand up and lift your heads because your

redemption is drawing near.

Both Luke and his 2 Jesus understand the need for the Davidic Messiah in the redemption of Israel, as an instrument of Yahweh who remains the ultimate Redeemer. Luke says his 1 Jesus has done it. 2 Jesus, however, denies that he has redeemed Israel and it will be up to another to do it - in the future, following the future “Day...”. If Elijah and “the Day…” had not yet come, as the Revelation testifies, then he, 2 Jesus, cannot be the Davidic Messiah.

1 Jesus (God - Man Messiah) 2 Jesus (Suffering / Prophet Messiah)

Luke 1:69 He (Yahweh) has raised up Luke 21:8 He replied “Watch out

a horn of salvation for us in the house that you (his Jewish audience) are not

of His servant David, deceived, for many will come in my

:70 as He said through His holy (first person) name claiming that I

prophets of long ago (following the Day). (first person) am he (third person - the

Messiah - Matth.24:5)

The punctuation of this statement of 2 Jesus in Luke 21 has been placed in such a way so as to create the impression that the “I” in “I am he” refers to the “Many…” and that they are the ones saying “they” are the Messiah. This presentation goes against the grain of the context, which is a profound denial. History does not record the appearance of “many” calling themselves Jesus and claiming to be the Messiah. Who then are “the many” who have come in the name of Jesus, claiming that he is the Messiah? The Gentile Church, who has distanced itself from Israel, has come in his name claiming him to be the Messiah - forever failing to discern “the Yom Yahweh” - the greatest prophetic statement in the Bible.

1 Jesus (God - Man Messiah) 2 Jesus (Suffering / Prophet Messiah)

Luke 1:71 ...salvation from our enemies Luke 21 :10.”Nation will rise against

and from the hand of all who hate us nation, and kingdom against kingdom

(This is quite clearly a physical kingdom :11 There will be great earth-

scenario as was expected) quakes, famines and pestilence…..

:12 But before all this, they

will lay hands on you and persecute

you. They will deliver you (the Jews) to

synagogues (Church of the Inquisition?)

and prisons, and you will be brought

before kings and governors, and all on

account of my name.

:20 When you see Jerusalem

surrounded by armies, you will know

that her desolation is near.

:22 ...time of punishment in

fulfilment of all that has been written.

:24 Jerusalem will be trampled

on by the Gentiles (for 1260 days until “the

Day...” according to Rev.11:2) until the

the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

History has proved 2 Jesus right - in every detail. 1 Jesus failed to accomplish what was ascribed to him. This profound statement by 2 Jesus is the absolute antithesis of what was expected from the Acharit Hayemim kingdom, seen by Isaiah 2 - 4 and pronounced of 1 Jesus by Luke.

Isa. 2 :4 He (Yahweh) will judge between the nations and will settle disputes for

many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares and their

spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not take up sword against nation,

nor will they train for war anymore.

4 :2 In that day the Branch of the Lord will be beautiful and glorious and the

fruit of the land will be the pride and glory of the survivors in Israel.

1 Jesus (God - Man Messiah) 2 Jesus (Suffering / Prophet Messiah)

Luke 3:4 A voice of one calling; “In the Math.24 :25 (Mark13:21-23) (Luke does

desert prepare the way for Yahweh, make not contain this) See, I (first person) have

straight paths for Him.” told you ahead of time

:26 “So if anyone tells you

‘There HE (third person) is, out in the

desert’, do not go out...

:27 For as the lightning comes

from the east and flashes to the west, so

will be the coming of the Son of Man

(third person - the “HE”).

2 Jesus had clearly warned them that the Son of Man Davidic Messiah does not come to the desert. Yet 40 odd years later, when they wrote the Gospel stories, all four of them have 1 Jesus introduced by one calling in the desert. And he, 2 Jesus, speaking in the first person tells them of another, the “he” - Son of Man Davidic Messiah - whom he presents in the third person. He does not say “..so will MY coming be.”

1 Jesus (God - Man Messiah) 2 Jesus (Suffering / Prophet Messiah)

Luke 1:17 And he will go before Yahweh Matth.24:29 (Luke21:25) Immediately

in the spirit and power of Elijah… after the distress of those days ‘the sun

(The preceding sign of Yom Yahweh) will be darkened and the moon will not

give its light; the stars will fall from the

sky (fallen angels?) and the heavenly

bodies will be shaken. (Preceding signs

of Yom Yahweh - in the future, when

Elijah will appear - Rev 6:12,13,17 and

11:3)

Perhaps 2 Jesus did mention Elijah here. In fact, he would have had to as he does (as the Lamb) in Rev.11:3. And perhaps someone, who failed to discern the significance of the other complimentary preceding signs, removed Elijah from the future so as not to clash with John the Baptist. Equally so, Mark, who does not have the genealogy or birth story of Jesus, failed to report 2 Jesus here on the Bethlehem birth and departure (rapture) of the Davidic Messiah before his return as 3 Jesus after 1260 days.

Birth of the Davidic Messiah in Bethlehem would have to occur before or at the preceding signs of Yom Yahweh for him to be raptured at revoking of the “delay” – as Daniel’s Son of Man (Dan.7) and Revelation’s Male Child (Rev.12). 1260 days, 42 months, a time, times and half a time would remain before his re-appearance as 3 Jesus. May it be soon.

Matth.24:30 2 Jesus: " At that time the sign of the Son of

Man will appear in the sky, and all the

nations of the earth will mourn (?). Then

they will see the Son of Man coming on

the clouds of the sky with great power and

glory. And HE will send his angels …."

(third person - he does not say “I will

send my angels…”)

2 Jesus talks to them in the first person (“I have told you…”) about another (“HE...”) in the third person.

This is a very powerful negation of Luke’s 1 Jesus being the Davidic Messiah. This Son of Man Davidic Messiah in fact now becomes 3 Jesus. Why will all the nations “mourn”? Who are they? Are they not those referred to by 2 Jesus in Mat 24:9:

“Then you (the Jews - he is speaking to an exclusively Jewish audience) will be handed over to be persecuted and be put to death, and you will be hated by ALL NATIONS because of me”.

Isn’t the Church of the nations, who have come in the name of Jesus, claiming that he is the Son of Man Davidic Messiah (which this 2 Jesus strenuously denied), supposed to rejoice at the coming of Jesus - and be raptured? Will they not mourn precisely because they failed to recognise the Son of Man, having mistaken Jesus for him?

Will they not mourn precisely in the same way as the house of David will mourn - “in that day” - for “the one who was pierced for them” (Zech 12:10,11)? For the one whom they failed to recognise, having been misdirected by the authors of the New Testament and, subsequently, the Church? Was this the reason why the prophet said they would not recognise him?

Isa. 53 :3 “...we esteemed him not.”

In the midst of this Prophetic discourse - its horrendous expectation of persecution, wars, famines, etc., Matthew attributes a statement to 2 Jesus that is quite out of character with the whole prophetic message:

Mat 24 :14 “And this Good News (Evangeli - Gospel) of the kingdom will be

preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and

then the end will come”.

This is a most unlikely statement within the context of the 2 Jesus Prophetic Discourse for the following reasons:

1. The description of the future dispensation of persecution and horror given here by 2 Jesus cannot possibly be described as a “good news kingdom”.

2. 2 Jesus cannot possibly be seen to be the ruler of such a horrendous “good news kingdom”.

3. How could “all nations” - the haters and persecutors of the Jews - and the Jews themselves, be expected to believe that such a horrendous scenario could be a “good news kingdom”. Somehow “all nations” believe it.

4. The culmination of this horrendous “good news kingdom” does not signal “the end”, because following this prophesied persecution comes the real Good News Kingdom with the arrival of the Son of Man Davidic Messiah, as comprehensively predicted by the prophets and falsely ascribed by Luke to his 1 Jesus.

How can this interpolation possibly be part of the prophetic vision of 2 Jesus? Unless it has been misplaced and should be part of the kingdom of the Son of Man, which follows after the preceding heavenly signs of Yom Yahweh? Then it would make sense. Why would “all the nations” mourn if they had been taught the “Good News Kingdom” before the advent of the Son of Man Messiah? This interpolation of the “Good News Kingdom” should therefore appear, not in Math. 24:14, but rather in Math. 24:31b - after the great Alliyah (return) as brought about by the Son of Man’s angels (Math.24:31a). Luke’s rendition of the words of 2 Jesus places this “Good News Kingdom” correctly - not in the tribulation but thereafter;

Luke 21 :29 “Look at the fig tree...

:30 When they sprout leaves... know that summer is near.

:31 Even so, when you see these things happening (great

tribulation), YOU KNOW THAT THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS NEAR”

:34 Be careful... and THAT DAY will close on you

unexpectedly like a trap. (Like a thief - Rev.16:15 - when Elijah is due.)

:35 For it (THAT DAY) will come upon all who live on the face of the earth”

Yes, in THAT DAY the Kingdom of God will come!

No person making such a statement (as presented by Matthew) could possibly be the Conquering Davidic Messiah before that time.

Matthew and Luke are at odds in their “kingdom” interpretation of 2 Jesus. We have to turn back Matthew’s pages to find his reasoning. Matthew has Jesus (presumably 1 Jesus) tell the Parable of the Tenants (Matth.21:33 - 41), from which it appears that Israel had killed the prophets, are about to kill the Messiah and that Yahweh, when he comes, will reject Israel and give the “kingdom” to the Gentiles.

Matth.21:43 “Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away

from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.”

From this it can be seen why Matthew would want a “Tribulation Kingdom” before “the end”. This “end” is then signified by the Yom Yahweh and he cannot have the Kingdom arrive in the future Yom Yahweh. His “fig tree” story (Matth. 24:32,33) is thus different from that of Luke and does not/cannot contain the “Kingdom of God” expectation because it is “the end”. However, Matthew’s reasoning does not make sense as his rendering of the Parable of the tenants would indicate that the “owner” would take away the land from the “bad tenants” and give it to others when he comes - in the future Yom Yahweh. And furthermore; the “son” and the “owner” is not the same person despite having supposedly been so introduced by “Elijah”... which means the “owner” had already come, before the predicted tribulation.

Matthew and Luke have diametrically opposing Kingdom perceptions. Matthew is profoundly Anti-Chiliastic, with the “kingdom” residing in the Church only - before “the day” - and nothing in the future for Israel and has so influenced his 2 Jesus. Luke’s 2 Jesus is profoundly Chiliastic, sees no “Good News Tribulation Kingdom” and expects the Kingdom in the future, after the tribulation... in “that day.”

Mark’s rendition of the Prophetic Sermon - the original - contains this statement;

Mark 13 :10 “And the gospel must first be preached to all nations.”

Mark’s 2 Jesus does not speak of the “kingdom” or the “end”. What would this “gospel” or “good news” be? Is it not that “The Holy Spirit will come on you and you will be my (the Orthodox Torah observant Jewish Rabbi’s) witnesses to the ends of the earth” (Acts 1:8) - teaching of which no yod or tittel would ever change? To bring Torah to the world as the Constitution of the coming Kingdom of God... in THAT DAY?

It seems clear that between the departure of Jesus and the writing of the Gospel stories, the authors and their redactors had major problems in understanding and explaining their kingdom perceptions, making their Jesus figures most confusing in the process. WHY? Why did they think the “kingdom” had come, giving it numerous divergent identities and then allowing 2 Jesus to rebuke them? Yahweh simplifies all of these by censoring them all, in revealing.. “...DELAY”. THE KINGDOM OF GOD CANNOT AND WILL NOT COME BEFORE REVOKING OF THE DELAY!

In summary of this comparative study of Luke, it can be seen how Luke, in his first chapter gives an accurate description of who the “Messiah” would be, the circumstances required for his coming and what could be expected of him - which does not include him having to die. Luke’s 2 Jesus - in his famous Prophetic Sermon - starts by categorically denying being “that one” and then spends the rest of his discourse explaining why. Especially, by placing Yom Yahweh in the future, he disqualifies himself from being that Conquering Messiah. He points forward to the real one, when the real circumstances arise, denying therefore that Elijah had come.

Yes, the nations - who have come in the name of Jesus, claiming that he is the Conquering God-man Messiah - will mourn when 3 Jesus arrives and discover that they had been mistaken. Realizing the manifold sins they have committed against Israel on account of this error.

It can therefore be seen how Luke associates opposing physical kingdom scenarios with his 1 Jesus, 2 Jesus and 3 Jesus. He even has another;

Luke 17 :20 Once, having been asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of

God would come, Jesus replied, “The Kingdom of God does not

come visibly,

:21 nor will people say, ‘Here it is’ or ‘There it is’, because the

kingdom of God is within you”.

Luke does not record the reaction of the Pharisees to this answer. There is a major contradiction in this, as all his other “kingdom” versions have clear “visible” and physical characteristics. In his second book - Acts - he has 2 Jesus answer a similar question, and giving a different answer;

Acts1 :6 “...Lord, are you going to restore the kingdom to Israel at this time?”

:7 He said to them; “It is not for you to know the times and dates the

Father has set by His own authority...”.

By implication 2 Jesus is saying that the kingdom of Israel will be restored somewhere in the future. The Pharisees seemed to understand that “God” would have to come for His kingdom to come and that this Jesus is not God. The question was not “...your kingdom...?” Is there any prophetic basis upon which God’s kingdom can come in any way and yet Israel’s kingdom remains in tatters - to be restored in the distant future, beyond the signs? No, they are inseparable.

Luke thus presents four contradicting kingdom scenarios. And there is also a fifth, as will be seen. How, may we ask, can one person present such divergent opinions as seemingly singular fact? According to academic theory, these various loose traditions were collected and compiled by a redactor who patently failed to discern the contradictions - not only the kingdom contradictions but also the Jesus contradictions. We can only make the distinctions by doing a wide-ranging comparative study to find the golden thread of consistency.

Having now discerned three separate Jesus figures, Luke and Paul now present another Jesus personality who demonstrates a different messianic doctrine.

Luke 18 :31 Jesus took the twelve aside and told them, “We (first person) are going

up to Jerusalem, and everything that is written about the Son of Man (third

person) will be fulfilled.

:32 He (third person - not “I”) will be handed over to the Gentiles. They will

mock him, insult him, spit on him and kill him.

:33 On the third day he will rise again” (All third person)

Luke 24 :25 He (Jesus) said to them, “How foolish you are, and how slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken!

:26 Did not the Messiah (third person) have to suffer these things and then

enter his glory?

:27 And beginning with Moses and all the prophets, he explained to them

what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself (first person)

Luke 24:45 Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures.

:46 He told them, “This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and

rise on the third day…”

1 Cor.15:3 “For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance; that

Messiah died for our sins according to the Scriptures,

:4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the

Scriptures…”

:14 “And if Messiah has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so

is your faith.

:17 And if Messiah has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still

in your sins”.

Who is this Jesus, calling on “all of Moses and all of the Prophets and all of the Scriptures” to prove his statements? It cannot be 1 Jesus whom Luke presents in his first chapters. This 1 Jesus appears as Yahweh, apparently after Israel’s “guilt” had been dealt with - according to Isa.40:1-5. This 1 Jesus is unaware of what is to happen to him - after Yahweh had supposedly redeemed His people. 2 Jesus, having denied that he has redeemed Yahweh’s people - who’s redemption he sees in the future - and having denied that he is the Messiah, does not know about the future Son of Man Messiah having to die and be raised on the third day in order to validate Israel’s faith. Neither does 3 Jesus, destined to appear after the future preceding signs of Yom Yahweh, know any such things written about himself. Is this then a 4^th Jesus who calls on “all the Scriptures” to prove his doctrine of death and resurrection on the third day - referring to “the Son of Man” as himself?

This is a most agonising problem. Paul states that this death and resurrection of the Messiah on the third day ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT EVENTS IN THE RELIGION OF ISRAEL. WITHOUT IT THERE IS NO HOPE NOR FAITH!

Both Luke and Paul repeatedly call on Moses, all the Prophets and all the Scriptures that are supposed to have predicted this as the greatest event in all of the religion of the Bible. They both produce numerous scriptures - many of them incorrectly presented or out of context - to prove their doctrines. YET NEITHER OF THEM PRESENT ANY SUCH TORAH, PSALMS, PROPHETIC OR OTHER SCRIPTURAL QUOTES OR REFERENCES TO SUBSTANTIATE THIS CLAIM. IN FACT, THE SCRIPTURES DO NOT KNOW ABOUT IT. And, consequently, no Reference Bible or Concordance in the Christian tradition can substantiate it - because it does not exist.

We have searched Moses, the Prophets, the Psalms, the Septuagint, the Vulgate, the Targums (Aramaic translation of the Tanakh), The Babylonian and Jerusalem Talmud, which contain Oral Torah, AND FOUND NOTHING TO SUPPORT LUKE AND PAUL’S MONUMENTAL CLAIMS OF THE DAVIDIC SON OF MAN MESSIAH HAVING TO DIE AND RISE ON THE THIRD DAY. What “Scriptures” are they referring to? Certainly not the Hebrew Scriptures. Could they be referring - from within their Greek orientation - to the prevailing Mysteries - the succession of Mythological Idol worship cults of the Gentile world with their recurring Mother and Child, Dying and Resurrecting Godman figures - the so-called Isis Dyonisis configuration? Within such an environment, both the Gentile Corinthians and Luke’s apparent sponsor, the Greek aristocrat Theophilus, would have found such sentiments acceptable as another variation of the existing theme. It is unlikely that they would have had access to the Hebrew Scriptures or Rabbinic guidance into them to verify Paul’s and Luke’s statements and would have accepted them at face value.

An excellent study of these Pagan Mystery Religions and their influence on early Christianity can be found in the book by Timothy Freke and Peter Gandy, namely “The Jesus Mysteries”. Both authors are presented as being well qualified and well versed with the subject.

Where in all of this does that famous Jewish historian and philosopher, Philo of Alexandria (20 BCE - 50 CE), stand? A contemporary of Paul and Luke, well versed in the Greek philosophers and admirer of Plato, whom he called “most holy Plato”, he was revered by the early Church fathers. He was a student of allegory - as was the later Augustine – and was always searching for spiritual meaning behind the literal text of the Bible. He is credited with the idea of possible merging of Hebrew and Greek philosophical thought in creating the Gentile New Testament Messianic concept - foreign to that of Judaism. (Wikipedia on Philo).

If Paul and Luke were influenced by Philo and other contemporary Greek scholars in their Dying and Resurrecting Godman theology, are their references to “Moses and all the Prophets and all the Scriptures” foretelling these events, then not allegorical or spiritualised derivatives of literal scriptures that cannot be discerned by us mortals? Or, conversely, derivatives of Platonic thought?

This latter notion then presents a very disturbing event among the Bereans:

Acts. 17 :11 Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians,

for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the

Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.

This is an extremely poor and subjective presentation of a vitally important study, and fails dismally in its objective. Luke, acting here as Paul’s scribe or lackey, merely leaves the slanted impression that Paul’s teachings were kosher. He fails completely in reporting on the most important question that these noble Bereans would most certainly have asked - on behalf of the entire Christian world of two thousand years - the ultimate test case, namely;

Dear Paul, and your scribe Luke, in view of Yahweh’s promise to His people, Israel, in Amos 3:7;

“SURELY SOVEREIGN YAHWEH DOES NOTHING WITHOUT REVEALING HIS PLAN TO HIS SERVANTS THE PROPHETS”;

pray tell us: Where in Moses, the Prophets, the Psalms and all of the Hebrew Scriptures and in the Oral traditions of the elders of Israel did Yaweh foretell this most important event - the death and resurrection after three days of - the Star out of Jacob, the Lion with the Scepter of Judah, the Branch, the Prince, the Cornerstone, the Son of David on the throne of Israel, Shilow, the Son of Man, the Man Child, the Chosen One - THE MESSIAH?

BECAUSE WE CANNOT FIND IT!

NEITHER CAN WE FIND SUCH A STATEMENT MADE BY YAHWEH OF HIMSELF!

Then there is Peter’s version of suffering and glory;

1 Pet.1 :10 Concerning this salvation, the prophets, who spoke of the grace to

come to you, searched intently and with the greatest care,

:11 trying to find out the time and circumstances to which the Spirit of

Christ (?) in them was pointing when he (the Spirit of Christ ?)

predicted the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow.

Again, the prophets know nothing of this pertaining to the Conquering Davidic Messiah. What “glories” would these be? The New Heaven and New Earth to come according to his Anti-Chiliastic viewpoint (2Pet.3:13 – to be discussed), or are they the present “spiritualised glories” in this 2000 years of ongoing tribulation, as predicted by 2 Jesus? Peter does not discern the Suffering Messiah, who came to reconcile Israel with Yahweh and the “glory” to be brought by the Davidic Messiah... pending the revoking of the delay.

Can Peter speak of “the Spirit of Christ” when the Spirit on the Messiah and the prophets is clearly the Ruach Hakodesh - the Set Apart Spirit of Yahweh?

Isa. 42 :1 Here is My servant, whom I uphold, My chosen one in whom I delight;

I will put My Spirit on him and he will bring justice to the nation.

Isa. 61 :1 “The Spirit of the Sovereign Yahweh is on me...”

Why then would the Gospel writers (and Paul and Peter) present something as previously revealed “prophetic fact”, of which the Bible knows nothing? And they all have different versions of it - Mark even has two versions, as if one was added later? Isn’t it simply because, in their minds, Yahweh, whom they have introduced as Jesus, could not be allowed to remain dead?

Following Paul’s encounter with the Bereans, he is confronted by others in Athens about his theology:

Acts 17 :18 A group of Epicurean and Stoic philosophers began to dispute

with him. Others remarked, “He seems to be advocating foreign

gods”. (They said this because Paul was preaching the good news

about Jesus and the resurrection.)

These Greeks would have been well versed with the ancient and prevailing dying/resurrecting godman mystery religions.

Are we denying the Guilt Offering of another? Or believe that the Suffering Messiah remains dead? Not at all. Isa. 53 tells us that He will live and Revelation confirms it;

Rev. 1 :18 “I am the Living One. I was dead and behold I am alive for ever and ever...”

He says to John, who was taken into the spirit world, “...I was dead, and see, I’m alive…” John did not know he was alive! Yes, the Suffering Messiah is alive in the spirit world, and so is everyone who finds refuge in his Guilt Offering; who are part of Israel.

There is nothing in Prophetic Scripture that supports Paul’s notion that the Conquering Davidic Messiah has to die and to physically rise on the third day for the Guilt Offering of the Suffering Messiah to be effective. Yet, for the Gentile Church - outside of Israel, outside of Moses, outside of Brit Milah (Circumcision Covenant), outside of the Sabbath - to say, as a statement of faith “He - the Conquering Jewish Yahweh Messiah - died for OUR SINS” ...is a bit rich.

Yet, that most precious Guilt Offering (the sacrifice for the Unintentional Sin against the Holy things of God - Lev.5:15) is DYNAMIC. It is both RETRO-ACTIVE (with regard to the sins of King Manasseh and others, which separates Israel from Yahweh, visiting the unintentional generations ). And it is PRO-ACTIVE (“Remember me and My Offering in the matzah and wine of the Pesach Seder every year when you partake of it”- Luke 22:19). And it is this Pro-active, Dynamic aspect which is the saving grace of the Gentile Church - which has unintentionally sinned against the Holy things of God.

It is not difficult to understand why the Synagogue would not buy into 1 Jesus, but recognised 2 Jesus for the prophet that he is. They may, however, have to re-examine him because he is also the Lamb of God, their Asham - Guilt Offering, pierced for them - before time stopped. 2 JESUS AND THE LAMB BOTH PRESENT THE SAME PROPHETIC PERSPECTIVE - IN THE PROPHETIC SERMON AND IN THE SEALS OF REVELATION RESPECTIVELY. They have to be the same person.

The Lamb is the one who reveals the “delay”, which unlocks the mystery. Does 2 Jesus allude to it? He may well have done so;

Matth.24:15 So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that

causes desolation’, spoken of through the prophet Daniel - let the

reader understand... (an event of the second half of the 70^th week)

:21 For then there will be great distress, unequalled from the beginning of the world…

:22 If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but

for the sake of the elect (of Israel) those days will be shortened.

Luke 21 :20 “When you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, you will know that

its desolation is near.

Dan. 9 :26 After the sixty-two sevens (plus the 7 = 69) the Anointed One will

be cut off and will have nothing (thus inside the 70^th week). The people

of the ruler who will come, will destroy the city and the

sanctuary.

:27 ...but in the middle of that “seven” he (The future leader) will put

an end to sacrifice and offering. And one who causes desolation will

place abominations on a wing of the temple until the end that is

decreed is poured out on him.

By placing events, distinctive to the latter half of Daniel’s 70^thweek, in the future, after an indefinite period of tribulation, 2 Jesus clearly indicates that the chronological order of events would be interrupted. If he was indeed the Anointed Prince - who was destined to appear at the culmination of week 69, and cut off (with nothing for him) after the 69^th (inside week 70 after a 3 1/2 year ministry) - then he had certainly indicated that completion of the 70^th would be delayed indefinitely, after his death.

These events clearly did not culminate in the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple in the days of Antiochus Epiphanes (160 BC) or Titus of Rome in 70 CE. So, “The Day…”, with its conclusive redemption, did not materialize and many worse atrocities have been witnessed by history since then. The Lamb, by placing these events in the future from 96 CE, confirms its future fulfillment in the sixth shofar of the seventh seal.

Rev. 11 :1 “Go measure the temple of God and the altar, and count the

worshippers there.

:2 But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been

given to the Gentiles. They will trample on the Holy City for

42 months (latter half of week 70 after the revoking of the “delay”).

The distress of Yom Yahweh will exceed all of those of Antiochus and Titus. And there will be a temple in a recovered Jerusalem. Clearly these events of the latter half of week 70 have been delayed and remain in the future.

Therefore:

The Lamb: “Delay revoked” - 1260 days remain.

2 Jesus: “Days shortened” on the remainder of week 70.

They say the same thing.

In summary of the four “Messiahs”;

1. 1 Jesus.

The “Yahweh Messiah” is a construction of the Gospel writers. (Did they act alone or were they coerced? We shall see). He has been combined with 4 Jesus - who was supposedly prophesied about to have died and risen on the third day - to form the Kerugmatic Christ of the Church. He is the product of an artificial Elijah/Yom Yahweh scenario and failed in the mission ascribed to him - that of redeeming Israel from her enemies.

2. 2 Jesus.

The Prophet Messiah of Moses (Deut. 18) and the Suffering Messiah (Isa. 53) who came before the Yom Yahweh to:

i Reconcile Israel with Yahweh by virtue of his Guilt Offering and to prepare the way for the advent of Yahweh (Isa.40:3), who would, in turn, introduce His Conquering Messiah (Isa.42:1) - in the future

Yom Yahweh.

ii To inform his people - Israel - that this great redemptive event of Yom Yahweh would be “delayed” indefinitely and, consequently..

iii To deny that he himself is that Conquering Messiah of Yom Yahweh.

He had to have known there was going to be “delay” when he prophesied about the time of persecution and suffering - when a false one would “rule” before the terrible and glorious Yom Yahweh.

3. 3 Jesus

The Conquering and glorious Son of Man/Man Child Davidic Messiah who will come in “the Day…” and who will perform what was ascribed to 1Jesus, who had been misplaced in time and misinterpreted as a result.

Finally, is it at all possible that the Suffering One and the Conquering One could be the same One? By way of Chiliastic theology of “The Parosia - Second Advent”? In differing capacities? We would think not, for the following reasons:

1. They clearly have different ministries, the descriptions of which never indicate alternative ministries at other times. They both have very definitive missions in

the bigger plan of Yahweh.

2. They appear at different times. The Suffering One appears (has appeared) at the end of week 69. The Conquering One appears at the end of week 70.

3. They are separated by Yom Yahweh. The Suffering One appears before Yom Yahweh to prepare the way for it. The Conquering One appears, with Yahweh,

in Yom Yahweh.

4. They are separated by one “week”, which has now become 2000 years because of the “Delay.”

5. None of the Prophetic Scriptures pertaining to the Suffering One indicate in any way that he would come again in a different capacity.

6. None of the Prophetic Scriptures pertaining to the Conquering One indicate in any way that he would previously have come in a different capacity –

re- incarnation if you will.

7. The Prophet Messiah points forward to the Conquering Messiah, after the Tribulation and preceding signs of Yom Yahweh.

8. The Suffering One introduces the Conquering One. First in the sixth shofar of his seventh Seal - the “Man Child”, with 1260 days remaining at revoking of

the “delay”. And, secondly, in the seventh shofar of his seventh Seal, together with Yahweh, after the last 1260 days. HE IS NOT INTRODUCING HIMSELF.

9. In all the Prophetic Scriptures depicting the Advent of Yahweh, there is no indication whatsoever that He would come, first as a Suffering Messiah,

and then as a Conquering Messiah.

10. The Male Child who;

a. “will rule the nations with an iron scepter...”

“…and the authority of His Messiah…” (Rev.12: 5, 10 - after Yom Yahweh),

and

b. “we have overcome him by the blood of the Lamb…” (Rev.12:11 - before

Yom Yahweh)

speak of two different Anointed ones.

The presentation of “Messiah” in the New Testament is clearly far more diverse than Church dogma would have us believe.